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Taido Chino's avatar

Not quite the same thing, but there is some resonance with what Jonathan Tran is reflecting on here... https://muse.jhu.edu/article/959865. I'll send it along if you don't have access.

Joseph Lear's avatar

Uh, yeah I want that, and, yeah, I don’t have access. Anytime someone’s talking banalities in theology, I’m in.

Brian Roden's avatar

Al Streett's "Caesar and the Sacrament" is a great volume on baptism as a pledge of allegiance to King Jesus.

https://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Sacrament-Baptism-Rite-Resistance-ebook/dp/B079FBHXSS/

Matthew Bates also discusses this aspect of baptism in one of his books. I believe it was "Why the Gospel?" but it may have been "Gospel Allegiance."

Joseph Lear's avatar

Thanks for this

Brian Roden's avatar

I first learned about Streett's work via OnScript (where I learn about a lot of authors and works, not being in the academy myself).

https://onscript.study/podcast/r-alan-streett-caesar-and-the-sacrament/

Douglas Olena's avatar

I was baptized as a 4-year-old in the Episcopal church, as a late teen in the military in the Mormon church, as an older person in the Assemblies of God in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit, and later still in a oneness church in the name of Jesus. My early years of searching were fraught with concern over doing the right thing. I finally got the message.

Douglas Olena's avatar

They all were efficacious in their own way.

Joseph Lear's avatar

That’s quite the history! Which one was your final baptism?

Douglas Olena's avatar

The curious thing about Derrida is that for him there is no Canon, no rule or precise definition in deconstruction. So it is perfectly ironic that folks want to place the defining moment of deconstruction into the hands of Derrida. I think he would have rejected the notion.

Joseph Lear's avatar

Yeah, not to mention that most people who talk deconstruction have never heard of Derrida, and if they have, they’ve never read him.

Dr. Holly Lear's avatar

When/where were you baptized?

Joseph Lear's avatar

Christian life assembly in Stroudsburg PA as a junior in high school.